Sony Ericsson UK have officially confirmed with us this morning that the Xperia X10 family (including the X8) will not see an Android firmware revision above 2.1 (Éclair). Whilst the company’s new line of Xperia phones will launch with Android 2.3 (Gingerbread), the X10 will not be supported past Android 2.1. The company instead plans to release smaller updates (like the multitouch upgrade) that will come in the next few months.
Sony Ericsson confirmed that the new handsets have a lighter SE skin and that its own modifications (including Timescape, Mediascape) have been decoupled to ensure that updates will be much more timely compared to what current Xperia X10 and X10 mini owners have had to endure. The current software builds of the X10 family are not built this way, which means Android 2.1 is the last version that will be supported.
269 responses to “Official: Xperia X10 family will not receive upgrade to Froyo or beyond”
What a fuck? Its not funny at all. Hope guys from xda can make custom rom with froyo or ginger
Custom ROM are the only way to go. Or buy another phone…
Buh-bye SE. This is the last SE device I buy. And it’s developed a fault on the touch display already. Here’s hoping they can’t fix it and have to replace it with something better!
Not surprised in the slightest. Am running the FreeX10 Froyo Beta release from the great guys on XDA. Am supremely confident that they will sort us out, unlike the SE developers who are on to bigger and better devices in under 12 months of releasing there “flagship Android device” (aka the X10). I for one will never buy an SE phone again.
Custom Rom the best….
…one thing 4 sure
XDA > SE
That’s a shame. They could have been more polite to the adopters of their first android line-up. anyway ARC seems so sexy. Maybe will switch mt X101 for ARC, but again it is a question of money also. Spending 500-600 euro every year for the phone does not seem to be really good experience,
Okay, we’ve officially been screwed over, and beyond. As much as the Arc looks extravagantly appealing, I now do not like the Sony Ericsson logo on it, I now much prefer an HTC logo, oh wait, I’m thinking of my new phone, It’s a proper good bye to SE now.
And who the fuck would make a phone with specs as good as that then realise they’ve fucked around with the UI too much and now cant do anything with it. I think it goes a little like this..
“Happy happy happy, make phone super duper yaaaay!
*Not even a year down the fucking line*
“Oh, ohhhhh…no more super duper fone, we did wrong, I’m soooooory”
Shut the fuck up you stupid Mungo!!!!
this is my last se phone. had the x10 for five months.it cost a lot of money and no future updates what a load of crap se sucks.
2.1 would be fine for me, if they fix some performance issues. I mean, they have to cut the release plans somewhere. 2.1 is not that bad.
Fair enough, at least this will mean faster updates for the next generation of SE smart phones
We still get multi touch, and despite no Froyo, I am perfectly happy with my X10, I think it is reasonable to have 1 year of updates and then move on to the next generation
NICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that sucks!
Ok. Fine!
No matter how good is Xperia Arc or upcoming new models, I will NEVER buy a SE phone again.
I have supported SE for so many years, what a shame to stick on it for years.
They’ve gone further, on the SE Developer Blog, they say that every phone except the X10 will get ANT+ support. That’s right, X10 mini/pro and X8 will get the update, the X10 specificially won’t. Nice SE, I’m burned with 2 X10s.
… long live XDA… I use a Froyo image right now, as soon as they fix the camera I’d say it would be much better than anything SE would come up with anyway… (Personally I was so tired of the lack of response from the official 2.1 image that I use that image anyway).
Now the next phone will be HTC or Samsung… who knows? certainly not SE..
So we are the fucking experiment user to buy and test their fucking first android device.
Im going to sell my X10 and go for HTC DESIRE HD. SE X10 will be my last SE phone. Do you hear that Sony Ericsson? Shame on you SE.
Some people say that ohhh they’re happy with 2.1, yes if you paid like £100 pay as you go for the phone, but this is a bombshell of a price £450 or somthing like that you expect more or less the latest software to maximise the top notch hardware the x10 has.
its like winning the lottery and then shopping at primark, you have the money but just dont use it
. And on contract, im paying £30/month for 2 years, the x10 is now the faggiest phone around. Thumbs up to whoever thought of the plan for the X10.
@Adam, one year of upgrades??? we had one major one, riiiiight.
@yuszx im with u on that one mate, htc desire hd FTW but then il be sad because i wont need this website, Owners of this website should sue Sony Ericsson because now everyone is shifting phones and no one will use your website, LOL
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This is utterly ridiculous!!
if timescape and mediascape is the issue, get rid of them in subsequent updates!!
I barely use them anyway!
No more SE for me after x10..
But. For now, root and get a cool ROM
This is hardly surprising news. The only thing that bugs me is that they are yet again lying about their reasons for doing it. There is nothing in the hardware of the x10 that says it can only run a particular software i.e android with uxp heavily integrated. They could easily replace the crap we’ve got now with the less intrusive software.
Dishonesty has become second nature for SE…they can’t just say they are not releasing any more updates without lying about the reasons why.
One year of updates on a contract that’s 2 years long ! And we only get 2.1 just when 2.3 comes out ! Im at a loss for words
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Anybody ever thought of sewing them (as mass buyers) for false advertisement and product misleadment…!?? I wonder how strong our case would stand… 😀
I got my brand new HTC Desire HD the last day of the last year.
Farewell X10 !
Bye-bye SE, HTC/Samsung or anything else here I come. Been A SE fanboy for years,” Once bitten twice shy ” or as a Xpera owner “Multiple bites always shy”
So, rather than decouple Timescape and Mediascape from their X10 ROMs to make their update process easier, they’re just giving up on the line and saying “SCREW YOU” to all their existing customers? They should unlock the bootloader at the very least.
SE stated last fall that they intend to become the biggest Android manufacturer, but there’s no way in hell that’ll happen with the crap support they give their products.
Last SE product I ever buy. SE can suck it!
Wher are the fan boys now? Fact is fact where are you? Bend over and take what SE is giving you
the 1st thing i do after flashing or updating Rom firmware
i root . i install root explorer nd bang
Delete mediascape timescape 😀
ahahahaha these apps are gud but they eat CPU +battery …..
Hoping for Devv to realse …2.3 soon
..they already got hands on froyo almostttt ….
I was disappointed in the company of Sony Ericsson, although it was a fan since 2003.
Has not yet ended the year with sales beginning Xperia X10, the company refused it. Throwing their potreiteley. I think it’s not the right move. A lot of fans SE turn.
Good luck to you.
I think my phones just died at the news that it is now officially a shit phone, and stopped charging, hooray FML
Fcxk off…………. Disappointed with SE……. will change phone to HTC or Samasung Galaxy S…… which used 2.2 & can upgarde to 2.3…. SE… sxxxxck/…………..
So funny!
Why does everyone get so worked up over something everyone saw coming?
Only months ago, everyone was raving about how much they love their phone after the 2.1 update, now everyone is crying because they are stuck with a phone thats not going to get another major OS update??
You still have a decent phone, get over it!
Let’s face it, those of us stuck in contracts, they dont last forever!
Still happy with my X10 and yes, when I come to upgrade, it WILL more than likely be another SE handset!
This is the real world, not a primary school playground! -+
I wont be buying an other sony android phone because of this
Sad news indeed. I hope and pray that the group at XDA can release an update for the X10 mini to android 2.2 at the very least. This is also probably the last SE phone I am going to buy. I was pretty happy with Sony Ericsson until now. Can’t believe I advocated them.
It is so obvious
Android 2.2 and above has the option of installing apps on SD card, phone with 2.2 dosent require 1GB of internal memory. SE designed this so as to support till 2.1
Ill probably go forr
Desire HD or Arc
sooner or laterr..
i hate Samsung nd nokia ..
Bob get paid too much
Fuck SE, i believe in XDA 😉 J & Z & T ftw 😉
Bob, i think if we’ve paid the amount we did then i think we have a right to be abit pissed off. of course we were happy when we got 2.1, we were stuck with 1.6 for a whole year.
2 year contract is a long time though
Hm.. I know it will be like this… But thats ok, annica: nothing are endless…
Damn U SE, Not surprising though, but there was a shimmer of hope that X10 could get Froyo. Now thats killed brutally !
Unkept Promises, Indecisiveness
Terrible customer support
Conflicting information
In short A crappy product, with capable hardware running shitty software.
Also will never suggest anyone for SE products 🙂 Thank you
@Stan S
You are aware that the ANT+ requires dedicated hardware in the phone? No, it isn’t bluetooth, it is a piece of dormant hardware that they are enabling now. And our X10 is missing that piece of HW. X10 Mini/MiniPro apparantly are more suited to an active livestyle.
Ah well…
To all the guys who wants to buy a Samsung instead: Please, don’t do it. They are worse than SE. I got one before. Sure, they are faster with updates, they have a great Display. But that’s it. The Galaxy just went from one major bug to another bug from release to release. So I switched back to SE. And trust me, better a X10 with few working feature, than a phone where you can not make a phone call or you car your wouldn’t connect anymore after some shitty updates.
Hey, all of you who say we weren’t promised 2.2, let’s put it this way,
iPhone users get all the OS updates for at least 2 models back. They can sell the phone to someone who doesn’t want a newer model, doesn’t want to upgrade a contract and doesn’t want to spend more money. I know a few people who sold 2nd gen iPhones when new phone came out and they covered most of the costs to upgrade.
The X10 without a newer OS is worthless junk, and will be worth what SonyStyle was selling it for at Xmas, ZERO. Every other OEM said they would do 2.2 or better.
As for the grammer of the blog, it makes no sense that the lighter SE makes it impossible to put on a X8 or X10 unless they need more RAM to run it than the X8 or X10 has. Is the 16mb short of 512mb on the X10 THAT important?
@LARS — while the Galaxy S phones are buggy, they at least have noise cancellation and you can make a call in noisy environment, you can’t on an X10 at all, you can’t understand the X10 caller and they can’t hear you. As a PHONE the X10 is very poor. As a pocket PC/PDA? It’s pretty good.
stupid lazy bitches —Se
I Stand Corrected on the ANT+ statement. No Hardware:Can’t Work
http://runningdigital.com/2010/10/30/bluetooth-and-ant-sensor-tech-for-mobile-phones-today/ and http://www.dailyfinance.com/rtn/press/sony-ericsson-joins-ant-alliance-and-established-interoperable-standard/rfid371628064/
No Froyo -> no more SE!!!!!!
I wish you death SE
Anybody want to buy my x10 ???
i am korean user.
I can’t write englisg well.
but i definitely say that i disappointed with SE
This article makes me log-in to say about se’s policy
The customer of SE’s new virsion of ‘arc’ will have been trashed, like x10 users.
DELL’s steak has similar spec , they will go jingerbread.
I am ahamed that i am sonyerisson’s user.
First.
SE!! Go and fuck yourself please.
Anyone want a X10 u can have it for free!!!!!
fuck you SONy Ericsoon ! you guys are CUNTS! CUNTS! CUNTS! CUNTS! CUNTS! CUNTS!CUNTS!
I hope SE is not think to stop upgrading X10, so people will go to buy the new 2.3 device.
BECAUSE I WILL NEVER BE A SE USER!!!
A F-word to SE
Even if the Arc looks awesome and really appealing, i will still not get it. Sony ericsson didn’t deliver as much as it was expected from the x10. I will not buy any other SE phone. I am so happy i got the samsung captivate for christmas. It is a HUGE improvement even if android is not as well costumized as the x10, i prefer the huge performance boost.
Bye Bye SE you fucked it up
EPIC FAIL
ugh…what a slap in the face. waste of money!
Fuck U SE!! NEVER AGAIN!!
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SE can go stick something sharp up their behinds. What a total rip off X10 has been. Had it for 6 months, the freaking USB port is dying all the time (very common fault, designflaw that basically kills the phone within 6 months), upgrades are virtually non-existant.
Basically a X10 will only work for 6-12 months then it is dead and you have to either service it or buy the new one (which probably have the same fault). And here’s the fun part, no more spare parts!!!! YOU HAVE TO BUY A NEW PHONE SINCE IT IS DISCONTINUED!.
SE can keep their arcs and what-evers and stick it up their behinds. Im moving on to a brand that actually care about their customers.
Bye bye SE hope you rot and die
Oh nice, but i´ve no my samsung galaxy s with 2.2 🙂 bye X10 and never again SE
STUPID MOTHERFUCKER SE!! STUPID FUCK!! THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WILL USE SE PHONE.. STUPID.. THE DESIGN IS SMART BUT THE FUCKING COMPANY IS FUCKING STUPID U FUCK!!
Congratulations ARC buyers, you will get gingerbread and probably nothing else. You will get a lot of bugs and several hardware design flaws. On top of that it will be replaced by another phone withing 6-12 months. SE is not taking care of their customers, they are basically bending them over and fucking them in the ass.
They did it with the X10 customers.
Would you go arc? Would you silently bend over?
SE you lost all your customers …….
I wont say F u…… I admit u fuckd up your customers ….
Bye bye
Hi FearKill, Can I have your X10 for free? 🙂 Get in touch with me — pngface @ xda
i hope to have million colors and multitouch on the next update. and if we have this then we living xda team for our updates =p
This was expected; the money lies in selling phones, and to do that you have to keep up with the competition. Supporting old handsets only costs money. That’s not say that as an X10 Mini Pro owner it’s not disappointing, just not a surprise.
Apple’s case is a bit different – they make a lot of money on the app store, so it makes sense for them to keep old handsets useful for as long as possible.
lets make ddos attack on SE site, die SE, die!
“Decouple” their Timescape and Mediascape? If they admit their incompetence at developing decent propriety software (and further, their ability to revise/improve those; on schedule!) then the best act they could do is simply release their source code to the public(especially the bootloader). It’s their only chance to save most of their consumer base.
i cant see any “official announcement” stating this fact…..why not wait until the source has been comfirmed before jumping ship?
This post made me die inside a little.
Is it possible to root even with that minor update that should prevent it?
Fuck You SE…you did it !!!!
We are users of so hi-end smartphone called X10.
We are SO UNHAPPY users.
We want GINGERBREAD!
SONY IS PLAYING WITH ITS CUSTOMERS!
OMFG look at this, SE is so fcking stupid : http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1575/1294331502500.jpg
I feel bad about the news. The only reason I wanted the update was because I wanted the flash support on web browser. I suppose I will look for a custom ROM from xda. If it works, I won’t change my x10 as I really love that phone, if not, I’ll buy the Desire HD. One thing is for sure: it’s my last SE. I’m so disappointed with SE.
I new it, I should´d by Samsung Galaxy S, SE sucks, totally….. Go Nexus
Ive endured the long waiting for 2.1. But this is a smack in the fucking face. I was never angry at SE but no they done it. This is my last. The company is digging it’s own grave
You all knew that the Xperia X10 was the first Android device SE made. It’s obvious it was an experimental phone and yet you bought it, I feel sorry for the dummies that doesnt know what’s going on… You should have done your research before buying the phone.
I bought it because i wanted to tinker with the device and get familiarized with the device.. i’m glad to say that I was able to root the phone install 2.1 and JIT v2 compiler and make it in par with the Galaxy S. I’m planning on upgrading to android 2.2 once i see that the new custom 2.2 roms are good enough for daily use. once this is done it should be as fast as the nexus s or even better.
that’s the power of open source softwares; there’s always a way to customize them.
so for the complainers, i suggest going with an iphone and be stuck with what you expect and not that much room for improvements. LOL!
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Please Santa.. make Sony Ericsson unlock the bootloader for the entire X10 range so our lovely tamed DEV’s at XDA can make us some yummy Froyo to make our lives that little bit better.. thank you 🙂
I swear that Xperia X10 was my last phone from Sony Ericsson. I will never buy another one, and I don’t care about X12, still it doesn’t has the front camera for video calling or skype. Still one core processor…This massage is a SE’s shame. I will not write nothing else, but it hurts… really hurts….I’ll be discouraged the Sony Ericsson brand to all my friends… time goes by… goodbye liers…welcome brand new adventure…welcome HTC…
This is the last SE phone I’ve bought.
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Never thought I would say this, but I think the X10i i currently own would be my last SE phone ever !
I hope SE enjoys its journey in the market, which would mostly be on the downward side ! No more recommendations by me to anyone I know….buy any other phone but not an SE !
The only problem is that it is not possible to crack the bootloader on x10. It is very unlikely to see stable froyo from xda.
Se, I loved all your phones. I am going samsung ir htc, because of your way of treating x10 customers. X10 is high end phone for nothing.
Engadget site shows se announced it will get update , Somebodys wrong
for those who want to know where the fanboys are now…. they are probably worshipping at the alter of the new xperia arc.
This will make me stop recommending SonyEricsson phones forever.
The only way to save their face is to offer an 80% rebate when you exchange X10 against the new one.
Otherwise, Bye, Bye SonyEricsson!
as i said months before, when i put my X10 away and bought a HTC DHD. This is ridicoulus SE, betraying the customers.
And i say it again, it is not important anymore to my how the new SE Phones look like. I will never buy a SE product.
You betrayed me, and so our relationship has ended immediately.
I waited months for promised updates which will never come, no more again.
Other mothers also have good looking daughters…
I’m not that disappointed, because it got me thinking, since SE can go fuck themselves and this my very last SE phone, I’m excited about my future phones with HTC and Samsung. Can’t wait.
Seems it´s going to get better with the updates from now on… Read this.. About the new phone SE Arc
Sony Ericsson has slimmed down their Mediascape and Timescape elements; the former gets an optional media widget on the homescreen, while the latter is now slimmed-down and optional rather than mandatory to use. They’re also been uncoupled from the underlying Android OS, which Sony Ericsson says will allow them to upgrade the platform far quicker than on the X10 and other variants. One of the company’s 2011 priorities is to push out upgrades on a more timely basis.
Hole articel:
http://www.slashgear.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-hands-on-video-06123889/
LMFAO. All the fanboys, with their explicit faith on SE. I can’t stop laughing. SE took a massive dump on that hope you were hanging on to.
O, by the way, enjoying my Desire and Desire HD on Froyo. Looking forward to Gingerbread soon on them, while the fans live in denial.
Screw the Arc. SE will find a way to rot that too.
Last SE phone for me… SE im dissapointed in you…
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Must admit this sucks lol
I’m not gonna cry myself to sleep like, but yea
Seems sony screwed the pooch on this one.
Don’t get me wrong I like my x10 🙂 I like 2.1,
But I can Say ill examine my next phone with
a lot more care. Kinda feel bad for my wifes mum
Who just ordered an x10 with a contract upgrade
but feck her I’m not very fond of the mother
In law lol
My next phone may well might be one of the
new xperia phones yet to come out then again
it may not, but I won’t be changing now til the
contract I’m on is done. And I’m one of the
Ones who bought the x10 to replace my
samsung jet lol not free on contract.. ah well
I like the x10 but due to the now lack of future
Support I won’t reckomend this generation of
se phones to anyone.
Lets face it tho we are all being raped of our
hard earned cash by someone, and we are
just the victims of sony ericsson.
Lesson learned, ill pick my next phone with a lot
more care in future!
Peace out guys! 🙂
Well, I wouldn’t call myself a “fanboy” but I will say that this won’t necessarily influence my decisions regarding future phones. As I have mentioned in previous comments, I will wait until SE is done updating this phone with anything useful and then, once there is a stable 2.2 or later, I will go ahead and start using that. When I’m ready to upgrade my phone (likely in about 2 years) I will do research just as I did when looking at the X10. I will remain a follower of the X10 and the Xperia blogs which should give me an idea if SE does in fact bring out updates in a more timely manner. Since the ARC will be 2 years old by then, I will have followed it through from release to…well…final release I guess. Who knows what other phones might be out there in 2 year’s time. We shall see. I may even make an earlier upgrade if the finances allow it and there is something cool on the market. We shall see.
Personally, this phone does everything I want it to and more. Admittedly, Flash support would be nice. Outlook support might allow me to convert my personal phone to a work phone. But overall, I can browse the web, watch many YouTube vids, follow Facebook and Twitter, take pics/vids, listen to streaming music, and make/receive phone calls. I can also play with other pieces of software which interest me more than they might interest most of you. I can’t complain about the phone itself, it’s great. I can complain about the lack of updates, but I didn’t buy the updates – I bought the original phone. It works better now than it did when I bought it…can’t say that about many purchases.
Meh by the time SE even released Froyo i’d probably be due for an upgrade anyway.
i’ll install 2.2 thanks to the guys at XDA so i’m not going to lose any sleep over this statement.
am i annoyed by SE for the lack of support for this phone? Yes.
but i do like the phone and with a custom ROM its an awesome phone.
Timescape was a pile of shit and i’m glad to be rid of it but i am happy with my phone as it is on 2.1, the only thing its really missing is Flash and even thats not a big concern to me.
i’ll keep modifying my phone until its due to be replaced and when that time comes i have my eyes on the arc as every other phone out there also has its own issues and i am happy with SE’s build quality.
Lets hope they learned from this Android device and make future releases better supported.
any of you guys had an X1? now THAT was a pile of shit with no support/updates whatsoever.
the X10 has had issues but on the whole its still a great handset.
That’s Stupid , I Didn’t Like SE Before I Buy This Phone , Now I Hate Them … I Won’t Buy A Device From This Company Again …. Stupid SE …
chill the fuck out guys, it’s not biggie!
SE… I am disappoint!
I have been a loyal customer of yours since the Ericsson T28 days and this is how you treat your customers? I, too, am definitely never going to buy SE ever again. What a waste of money. Even with the 2.1 update with JiT enabled, the phone speed is still sub-par compared to phones within the same class. WTH!
2.1 isn’t that bad.
Hey, they can’t update every single handset they bring on the market.
Now they have new (and better) handsets, which run on Android 2.3.
I can understand them, and if they bring some little updates, okay. But they learned from their mistakes with the x10 family
Last SE I buy.
and sony have just ensured i never buy their crap again
I was a HUGE fan of my K750i.
My X10 is my last SE phone.
I’ll tell everybody I know how crappy SE is.
This is ridiculous So much for buying an x10 as a promising Android phone. You guys are really screwing up a great phone. At least upgrade to 2.2. Pathetic. You have lost my support and will advise other not to buy anymore SE phones.
i think it’s a commercial strategy to make eyes turn to X12, maybe 1 year after launching it they will upgrade X10 to 2.3 or more, remember the official story of multitouch about the lack of hardware.. and now they work on multitouch!
wow SE u suck i want to be able to put fucking apps on my sd card fuck u SE never gonna get a SE phone again
My first SE and my last one 🙂
How many customers have they lost with this shit? a huge number.
I mean, i am telling you, how many times I swear while trying to send a txt with this phone? LCD is absolutely crazy and that cant be fixed. This is a nice looking phone. just that.
I would like to stick to android phones after this one, if anyone can recommend me one. I will wait and see how is the 2.2 ver from xda as they are still working on that,btw, I think they did not put their arms down as SE.
Its understandable, SE has plenty of money thanks to users like us, spending about 400 quid in a device that in less than a year wont be supported. that is some way to make money fast and I mean FAST! because after all, people who does not understand about this, they will just get a new se once its out.
Thanks god I’m stuck to a 18 month contract(!) and that I did not spend that quantity on the buy (understanding that you pay a lot of money to your net provider in 18 months but it is different).
Nokia? HTC? Nexus? Samsung?..
High end phone with out-dated OS. Well done SE. Now I don’t care about 2.2 anymore. I never expected from this shit company anyway. Only things I want from this phone is MT and performance issues resolved.
Make.belive
make. masturbation to ark because Se release another shit without finishing previouse
haha seething mugs, arc is my next phone 😀
Bye-bye SonyEricsson, HTC/Samsung or anything else here I come. Been A SE fanboy for years,” Once bitten twice shy ” or as a Xpera owner “Multiple bites always shy”
wtf? fuck se. and i just got my x10 today.
this is my second se phone and will be my last.
Just go to http://www.facebook.com/SonyEricssonUK
Unfortunately you’ll need to like the page in order to vent.
what the fuck?? fuck your grandma SE my first SE phone now it would be the last
im buying HTC .asshole Sony Ericsson.. FUCK YOU!
your just a simple bitch
How could you do this to us SE? I just brought this phone 1 month ago thinking it’d be nice to have an Android phone. And I’d also expected monthly updates. Now I feel like a fool for trusting you guys. If you’ve made your decision, then that’s ok. But please include these two features in your next update, I won’t want anyting else.
1. Flash Support
2. Move Apps from Phone Memory to SD Card
Please Please Please!!!
Nice, first we wait ages for a mediocre 2.1 update, and now they just ditch the phone altogether. Talk about raping their customers..
Amateurs…The fawlty Towers of Phone companies…shocking experience and this was an expensive product to purchase…This is the end of me ever buying an SE again…I had 5 in a row now but now thats it…HTC here I come.
SE!We will not trust you anymore!!!
Are you kidding..?
No more upgrade?
I have bought x10 recently. Because I had sew that x10 upgrade 2.3 .
But, Se made a here of consumer.
I never buy product of Sony.!
wow. reading the above comments – PR nightmare for sony. i think they’ve earned it too.
May Death be bestowed on you, SE……..
This is how SE would like to have free advertisement from the users around the world. “NOT TO BUY SE anyMORE”. GREAT ONE~!
If sales of the ARC is disappointing, then it is the mistakes SE made alienating current X10 users.
We wait and see, if ARC fails, then maybe SE will change their mind and upgrade the X10.
i am still with 1.6 on my x10. really disappointed how se handles their updates.
had been an SE fan for 5 years and this will be my last SE phone
Screw you SE.This is not a good way to rip of your customers.
Never buy any phone from Sony Ericsson from now on. We never have to reserve these cases that a company ignores customers.
I use X1 and I wanted to buy x10.
but SE said “We will update for X1 to WM 6.5”
but THIS IS LIKE THAT SITUATION
What the fuck SE I don’t like Samsung(I’m Korean Galaxy S’s specs are not same in U.S)
They became equal Samsung.
X1 will be my last buy SE. They make a big mistake.
They couldn’t win apples or Nokia at this rate.
Oh come on! SE! I had this phone for 2 months and now you guys announced this? Great it’s time for me to sell my phone on ebay.
I bought a X10 just yesterday after a rep told me I could upgrade to 2.4 and beyond. Now I’ve been told it’s only going to have the software it came with?
Sorry Sony, but you’ve seriously just lost a customer. Never will I buy another one of your phones. Not only were you late with 2.1, but now you’re saying it’s the last android update? I can’t even trust your other phones to not become redundant in a few months.
Sorry Erroroson can go to hell and stay down there!
WE DEMAND Android 2.2 NOW….. I REPEAT…N-O-W!!!
Get it in your fucked up tiny crap brains of yours!
Android 2.1 is fucked up crap OS.
WE ALL BADLY NEED Android 2.2…
– Adobe Flash Player
– Apps to SD card
before we get that, the X10 series is completely unusable.
Android 2.1 is very much oldschool, and don’t forget the X10 is STILL TODAY TOP OF THE LINE from Sorry Errorson!!! And we are WAY PAST Android 2.1 by now! Get it in your heads!
SE proclaims they are going to be leaders in the Android phone market… ha ha ha what they are is a complete bunch of ignorant bastards!!! Yeah BASTARDS! I MEAN IT!!! They will NEVER be leaders with this kind of attitude, letting their down owners time after time!
I’m NOT spending one cent more on that company
HTC is my brand from now on.
My VERY MUCH OLDSCHOOL X10i “Unluster” white will be set on sale right away.
Now SE tells X10 series owners to stop whining ha ha ha,
All whining X10 owners HAVE A VERY GOOD REASON TO DO IT. GET IT IN YOUR FUCKED UP MINDS! SE idiots!
If you let down customers, we get angry, and we never forgets!
We still have a completely unusable mobilephone, you better think otherwise than letting down the X10 owners. Android 2.1 SUCKS on X10 and SE SUCKS!
I’M COMPLETELY DISAPOINTED in SE. And I will never ever forget it!!! I will rell all people I know about this SE scandal!
To Anyone saying, oh but i’m happy with my X10 bla bla bla… Get a life!!!… Get… a… fucking… life!
As the tech geek that I am, I will recommend all X10 and X8 series owner to completely boycut Sorry Errorson products, you will only be let down by the very much ignorant snops of SE. Their products is way overdue in specs and Android version. And they dont give a damn about it. Buy a HTC mobile phone next time. Watch the many video reviews on http://www.youtube.com of the HTC mobiles. They do NOT let their owners down. And it is much more professional build phones than SE mobiles.
Seeing is believing, go see youtube now!
Right now the HTC Desire HD and the HTC Desire Z is top models and they areMUCH MORE PROFESSIONAL than X10 series.
But there will be even better HTC ones in near future soon.
I guess there is no need for anybody to be looking at this forum again I’m affraid!
So bye bye poor SE owners.
… remember… NEVER FORGET!
@jesper Simonsen, Denmark.
u are damn right, i love x10,but i hate SE for this service,my next mobile will not be ARC or any other frm SE,from HTC or apple
Pfff
Youre doing bad business Sony Ericson!!
They will lose many customers by stopping developping Adnroid 2.2 for the X10
For me no SE anymore….
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Guys, I do not know where the SE UK told officially that there won’t be 2.2 and above for X10s and X8, but I called German, Hungarian customer centres to ask about this, and they said all the same: It is under development, and it hasn’t been cancelled yet.
If you think. Logical. What is the point, that they will jump from 2.1 to 2.3? Not logical at all. I am sure, around March we will recieve the 2.2 for our X10 family and for the X8…
B/\atards used our money for those new f |_|cking fones they made MO fos n F|_|k those who say they arent bothered by this statement u guys shudnt be usin android dumm as’s n SE is coldddd least they can do now is open the F|_|kin bootloader
Sony Ericsson Epic FAIL !!
Sony Xperia Arc deserves to be a big failure !!
new update
http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16756
WHY THE FUCK X8 IS INCLUDED? IT’S A BRAND NEW PHONE U POOR BASTARDS.
And this is why I’m switching over to a Blackberry Bold..smh
I can not imagine how extremely good that future Sony Ericsson phone has to be, for me to actually buy it and forgive this betrayal …
I’m sure if this happens, the SE will go bankrupt, abandoned by his fanatic
[…] ROM for the Xperia X10. The release is timely considering that Sony Ericsson yesterday officially confirmed that the X10 family will not see an Android revision beyond Android 2.1 […]
Stuck with this piece of crap for two years and u guys are telling me i cannot update it anymore.. WTF??????
This is story about how SE digged their own grave…
I was SE fan for about 6years but .. WTF!!! U fucked this totally, fucking motherfuckers how can u betray like that, never EVER gonna buy SE again!!!
HTC/Samsung HERE I COME!
Come on now everybody, you all knew this was coming or not coming so to speak.
What is more alarming is that previously SE hinted that it may be an option and they were considering the option of Froyo for the x10 when they never had any intention of doing so.
What they have done is follow that leaked SE roadmap which everyone chose to ignore.
At least XDA will give you options 🙂
i’m so disappointed coz SE was canceled android 2.2 and 2.3 for x10i…..x10i is the great phone i ever get it b4…..b4 i’m used w800i(the 1st walkman hp in the hp’s world)…after tat i found out the nxxxa X-serious more better then it so i changed to use it but now x10i is more then more better then nxxxa….plz SE plz accept x10i upgrade to android 2.2………thz alot
i very very disappointed and angry…..
never ever gonna buy SE products again
NEVER ever again I will buy a SE – Phone.
This is really a joke.
I have that phone not even 1 year… payed > 500 Euro for it.
If that’s the way they treath their customer…. I won’t be a customer anymore.
Good bye Sony Ericsson !!!!!
Ignorant pack !
yup.. i hope SE read this every single day..
I WILL NEVER BUY A SONYERICSSON PHONE ANYMORE…Software support sucks.
wasting our investment … i wasted my yearly bonus for this stupid phone!!
thank you SE.. do this over and over again.. and I hope another big company bought an take over your company asap…
I WILL ADVICE@PROMOTE HTC/SAMSUNG or OTHER ANDROID PRODUCT rather than Sonyericsson to anyone i saw with a SE phone.
DONT BUY SE AGAIN PPL!!
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I agreed with u everybody! Fuck SE and wont buy a SE again i will buy a HTC and throw x10 to rubbish cauz i dont want to torture anybody by selling this fucking phone))) viva HTC fuck u SE!
i wrote a petition! http://www.petitiononline.com/x10free/petition.html
i just wanna confirm what thousands of other write down here. stopping the OS support for such an expensive smartphone which is also known as the SE flaggahip turns me into hard dissapoinment.
i owned the last 6 years an SE mobile phone, my x10 will be the last one. my friends do the same
oh no…
wasting money, i bought xperia mini 10 last year.
and now stuck to eclair…
SE is bad to customer…
🙁 🙁
Oh crap now that’s it.
I selling X10 and go get me an iPhone 4 or Some New android Phones that’s not SE.
Bye Bye SE you’ll never see my Face again.
If SE told me this in the first place, i would never have bought my X10.
@SE: We understand you need people to buy the 2.3 phones you’re releasing, but this is just rediculous. You don’t have to do jack shit to give us X10 owners 2.2, you just don’t want us to have it so we buy your next phones. Fuck you.
Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
Poor show sony ericsson. Been an avid fan way back since t610 days and now just another person lumbered with outdated software. Another customer lost. Adios
… I was wondering between HTC and SE… Now i now HTC was the better choice. I regret bought the xperia x8…
Well, I am not happy about hearing SE decided that they were going to not support the device beyond 2.1. X10 is less than a year old and already it is being kicked to the curb by Sony. Of course, Sony in all their wisdom once again shat upon it’s user base. Fool me once, shame on me….fool me twice…and well Motorola, HTC, Nokia or even Apple seems to be more appealing, since at least they tend to support their mobile phones as long as the hardware is capable of the updates.
Last Sony phone for me.
SE never promised to upgrade to Froyo anyways so why are you angry from them ?
Yes I am disappointed that the phone will not be upgraded, but in the same time, I can’t blame se because they never promised that the phone will get upgraded to Froyo.
Anyway, I love my X10 with 2.1 and I am satisfied with it, getting Froyo is not going to chane my world one of a sudden. I’m looking forward for the new mind blowing arc from se 😉
I got my 2 X10’s on 3 year contract in September with the promise of O.S. Upgrades for two years! I previously used S.E. K790 Cybershot and it was good. Given this insult to loyal S.E. customers, I will piss and moan all over my service provider and S.E. until I get some major concessions. The smart thing for them to do would be hiring someone from xda to fix this whole nightmare and “satisfy loyal customers” with relevant updates. Truly a small price to pay, keeping loyal customers happy and avoiding a huge P.R. FAIL! I’m not rooting or modfing until warranty expires in September. Who knows, maybe something will happen between now and then that requires replacement by service provider or S.E. themselves.
I’m angry like the birds now!
is x10 hardware capable of getting 2.3 ? pls reply any one…..
SE has already updated X10 from 1.6 to 2.1 and it is enough service for users. The geeks who is shouting like crazy is no better than a beggar. If SE releases 2.2, these beggar geeks want to update 2.3 in X10 and endless. The beggar geeks are just anti-fan and not Xperia fan of real.
SE should launch X10 much earlier to avoid increasing these beggar geeks. it’s lessons to learn bout Android.
cry out loud?
wtf.. look at other brand like HTC and Samsung… even old model like HTC MAgic/Hero already gotten their 2.2 Froyo you dumb ass! Hero/Magic is much more slower and lack of gpu , small RAM, lower resolution..etc.. but HTC still taking care of their LOYAL customer by giving them a newer UPDATES!!.. even a cheaper n low profile specs like WILDFIRE also got their Froyo!!
f u draft_life and to any1 who wrote fact is fact
HAHAHAHAHA last time I checked some of these blogs was november 2010 when everyone was sweating on 2.1… It was like their world was coming to an end because they didnt have 2.1 and pinch to zoom… I see the same people complaining today.
If this is your biggest problem ATM, then kick back and have a beer.. Life’s not that bad.
And just for the record, 2.2-2.3 would be sweet, but then there’ll always be 3.0-3.6, 3.8+
enjoy what you have, its just a phone
I think Sony Ericsson should give us a choice to have stock android on our phones.
Either to choose their “Excellent” 2.1 with the UXP or Stock Android.
To tell the truth I would pay for such a service over having my phone stuck wat 2.1 with your so call “Better than Vanilla 2.2″
Sony Ericsson will get way too much bad press and no recommendations from existing customers.
@ Mescht and Luke I think you have missed the point. You have to Judge Manufacturer with Manufacturer. Sesuxbigtime got it right, if the Hero can get Android 2.2 which is a lower spec and older phone why can’t Sony Ericsson do it. “News Flash”, the web is using Flash now which is supported by Android 2.2. We should be at least supported with upgrades for a year so 2.2 or 2.3 would be fair before they End of Life the flagship device
Think about how the existing customers feel with your current roadmap.
– Android 1.6 (Donut) was released in September 2009.
– Android 2.1 (Eclair) was released in January 2010.
– The Flagship X10 was launched with Android 1.6 in March/April 2010 (This is already 6 moths old).
– Android 2.2 (Froyo)was released in May 2010.
– The X10 was upgrade to Android 2.1 in November 2010 (This is 9 months late and some haven’t been upgraded yet)
– Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) was released in December 2010.
– Major upgrade support ends 5 January 2011. (That is 9 months to End of Life)
– Xperia Arc is launched with Android 2.3 “Current Android build”
On the Roadmap above all X10 customers how had faith in Sony Ericsson are used as Guinea pigs for 9 months. Is this what was meant by Bert Nordberg, Sony Ericsson’s CEO, saying “big surprises” are coming soon from the company over the next few months.
I can’t believe that I have recommended countless amounts of people to the X10 and God knows how many they have recommended. How could I ever recommend Sony Ericsson to anyone else after you make the X10 End of Life in 9 months with 1 major upgrade.
I want someone for Sony Ericsson to respond as this is a atrocious.
Also do you know that the X10 is the only Android device with a flash that doesn’t work as a flash. Its a light for God Sakes.
Thanks David J,
yes. i think it was not bout Android at all. IF X10 coz around USD$25 then they stopped supporting any updates.. then i think everyone can have their peace of mind.. and sayin’ “oh no update coz mine was a low profile phone.. maybe i shud had bought a high end SE phone and get all those updates like HTC does..” but HELLLL NOOOO..
Superb hardware but lack of support. the least they can do is 2.2 shud be enuff..
try like to compare HTC Legend 2.2 with our X10 2.1
both got pros n cons in everyway.. but still Legend got most of better facility then X10.
even root/ROM is much better than our X10 root/rom
Within 9 months only 1 major upgrade.. and later they shud put a huge banner
“EOL for Xperia10 and Xperia 8 series..
END OF LIFE. PERIOD. Take a hike..”
TOTALLY DEFLATED ! ! I mean no flash support on a £450 top of the range still flagship smartphone ? come on ? had faith that a company such as SONY ( btw always bought sony when i could ) wouldnt leave customers behind in this type of technology field after such a layout and such short space of time ! Hoped at least for flash support especially the way video is viewed online nowadays mostly flash etc Thought sony were in talks with adobe etc at one point. I thought if nothing materialised that sony would at least go for 2:2 to provide flash support for their No 1 smartphone . flagship etc … come on sony surely you can do better than that eh ……
@ Fact is Fact
STFU bitch. I see you defending totally retarded dicisions by this company, which sensible people are now abandoning.
Either, you are an employee of SE, or you are doing some big time cock sucking. Suck mine too while you are at it.
@ draft_life
You fucking moron. Instead of calling people wanting to utilise all that is good in android beggar geeks, look at your utilisation of the phone. If it is enough and more than you need, do yourself a favour, buy a device that costs 50 USD.
The lesson to be learned about Android is this. Yesterday I looked into a survey about brand loyalty amongst smartphones. While Android was the fastest growing segment, the loyalty of it’s customers actually fell. A lot of people who have bought an Android device would not buy one again. Want to know why? Its because of fuckers like those @ SE (others too, not only these like moto for abandoning a lot of phones, like samsung for failing to update timely, etc), who do not update timely/ outright refuse to provide updates.
Android is a new platform, its about possibilities. One needs the newest platform to enjoy it. When companies do not do that, one’s experience is soured. Yeah, Tom pays 800- 1k USD for an android device, which Tom finds is lagging a year behind in updates with current android development and is finally abandoned. Tom’s Android love affair is over and he will probably buy an iphone/ nokia next and say ciao to Android.
Android has one severe shortcoming. It is a FREE product owned only by Google, and has little regulation. So yeah these barstards have no problem raping it, usung it when they are capable of minting big bucks from it and will discard it when it’s not to users liking, because, hey, it was free and the company didnt own it, so no loss.
Google should seriously review what companies are doing with their baby and not allow these half assed attempts to make android look like a joke. Letting these companies abuse what they do about android is the only way, that I can see, this platform is going to go down in flames.
Fuck you Sony Errection!!!!!
Just leave us out in the cold will you.
Going to get a HTC to warm myself up and then shitting on your Xperia Range……
-ahhh=
You fucking assholes here all look motorola and htc they doing thhe same thinks like sony ericsson but u assholes only saying good bye se than 1 or 2 years later u will say good bye htc hahaha u r all have only rubish in ure head
With all due respect David J, I haven’t missed the point nor do I have to judge anyone.
I got the phone for free while paying au$50 a month for $500 worth of calls and sms. Free calls to optus and virgin phone numbers and 2 gig of downloads a month. I was promised 2.1 and I got it (late but better then never)
I completely understand about flash not being supported but i donated a few coins to xda and hopefully as a last resort they’ll do what they do and make a lot of people happy.
All im saying is, unless you sign a contract believe nothing you hear and half of what you see. Maybe you should hit your phone carrier up for a better deal
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Enough is enough. For me, X10 is useless without 2.2. It’s not even a good basic phone, the sound and the mic is horrible. Five SE phones in a row, this is the last one.
@Jens, mine was 6 in a row, and yes this is the last one as well.
@Nitin
Nitin grow up and no need to insult and be rude to everyone who disagress with you 🙂
This childish attitude exactly shows me that your not mature enough and therefore you act and speak in such way. I did not defend the company I just stated some simple facts, yes I admit it’s a disappointment that se will not give it Froyo, however, it was always a matter of hope, the company never promised to release 2.2 anyway! So why blame and bash the company ?! Next time before you buy a phone be sure to buy a phone that will be updated for 20 years ahead in order for you to stop complaining which by the way will never happen 🙂
I’m happy with 2.1 and many other users are as well. Not all of us are simple minded and are going to abandon a company just because it didn’t update our phone to the latest os! If the phone is working fine and doing most of the things I need than I’m totally satisfied and no one can take away this feeling from me.
I know my words may make you angry, but just deal with it this is life and everyone is entitled for his own opinion. Some of them make sense and come out of sense and logic and others come out of nonsense and screaming and insulting others.
Cheers!
moto and samsung still have devices that are on 1.5 android! Yes what you heard is true and they don’t intend to update them at all.
So since all SE phones are at least 2.1 I still think we are ahead the competition and also knowing that the new devices will come with 2.3 out of the box is a big relieve. Further, I want to point that I’m also sad that I won’t get Froyo, believe me all of us wants to improve his overall experience. However, what I’m trying to say is that the situation is not as terrible as many of you whiners are making it look like! As if it was the end of planet earth lol, come on get a life or a girl friend and don’t let your whole life revolve over a phone. trust me there are much more interesting things in life 😀
Although I must admit that phones are really getting exciting nowadays 😛
@ Fact is Fact
Do some growing up yourself, you satupid fuck. Get your head out of your arse and be honest with yourself. How has this company lived up to any expectations apart from providing a well built product, which wont count for shit without the software to drive it.
Secondly, I suspect you are an employee of SE or looking forward to some freebies at the rate you defend them. No company has promised anything except the device one buys, but some decent companies, read HTC provide one with a user experience which is leagues ahead of these lousy people. You talk about 20 years? I change 3- 4 phones a year all bought full price. I dont give a damn about 20 years, but I do like to feel good about what I bought. This was unfortunately the most disasteful experience ever.
I am what you call so “Simple minded” and have abandoned this company. Why do I owe them any loyalty? They sold me an overpriced product and scred me after that. Finis. I’m not a blind fan, nor do they pay my bills, nor do I work for them, nor are they giving me any freebies, and after this I don’t like their corporate policy one bit. So yeah unlike some I do have enough will to look out for better fish in the ocean.
Lastly, your words don’t anger me, your SE shit eating attitude, and expecting others to do the same does. Man up and disclose your real agenda on here. SE employee? Or freebie seeker?
Fuck this shit, I just brought an xperia mini pro over a nokia C6 just because I wanted to have the possibility to upgrade to froyo, I’m so fucking mad right now!
Make believe=pretend
Hi – not happy with SE.
Good news for me is that I’m due an upgrade.
Looking at this new Nexus S with Gingerbread…
Is this as good as it looks at first glance?
@Nitin
I say SE employee.
Anyone who could say that SE is ahead of the competition is either living on a cave or an SE employee. I like the optimism, but after supporting them and giving them unlimited chances… it’s disappointing.
Give me fucking Update ! I want 2.2 !
Chill out guys the future it brighter 😀
what ashit fone, im very dissapointed, and i dont want to buy a sony erricson phone ever again!
I’m a phone enthusiast and my influence on device selection for the people around me is, to put it mildy, enormous. I can tell you right now, looking at the update patterns from all the manufacturers, HTC wins by a f*cking mile. Samsung, though still good, has problems updating some of its devices (GPS problems, SD memory going missing) despite its great AMOLED screens. Motorola, look at the Milestone, not even on 2.2 yet despite its brother Droid has been enjoying it for the last how long? LG, not too confident about the quality. Sony Ericsson will never get my money again. There is no forgiveness. I will do my damn best to make sure no one around me buys a SE phone from here on out. SE, go f*ck yourselves.
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To all SE defenders who claimed SE never promise anything, why then should believe them now?
SE never put in writing or committed the new range of phones will be upgraded to higher version, so should anyone trust them now? When the arc is not upgraded, all you SE apologist will toe the party line and claim SE never promised anything.
Get real, we paid a premium for a phone that is made in china, with lower hardware specs than competitors, and an outdated software, we are not getting the after sales service, should anyone be happy with that?
no surprise at all, I predicted that months ago.
USA Xperia X10a users with at&t (SI# 1237-4604):
-at&t received the 2.1 update on October 31st,2010.
-I finally got to talk to a Senior Customer Supervisor at at&t with name Anthony. He acknowledges that indeed they have the update but at&t is STILL performing testing on it before rolling it to all of us at&t users.
-He apologizes saying that it is well known that at&t over-tests and holds on to software updates this long because they rather forward an update with virtually no bugs, and he says that in their history this is what works best for them financially as a company….to screen and test software updates to the grind in order to avoid bugs and hence avoid a larger number of inquiries in the future due to bugs associated with new software put out.
-I then asked him : How is that over-testing serving me well if I am working with an outdated android 1.6 that does not allow me to experience the android market as most other android users do?
So, bottomline…It is OFFICIAL …at&t has the 2.1 update…only not releasing it yet cause they want to make sure its as bug-free as possible.
Call at&t and give them HELL…
Demand your 2.1 update from THEM and NOW!
Sony Ericsson is out of the loop …for now…
WE NEED TO BAND TOGETHER AND FLOOD THEM WITH COMPLAINTS.
I GOT MY “HEXED” 10 JUST OVER A MONTH AGO ON A 22 MONTH CONTRACT!!!!!……..NOW IM THE KIND OF BLOKE WHO LIKES THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY WHEN IT COMES TO PHONES SO IVE NOW GOT A FUCKING TOP END PHONE (OR SO I THOUGHT) WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY NOW OBSELETE??????? WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE TAKING THIS FOR????? THE WORLD IS IN ECONOMIC RUIN (ESPECIALLY WHERE IM FROM,ENGLAND) AND PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET, AND SONY BASTARD ERICSSON CHARGE US BIG MONEY FOR A FLAGSHIP PHONE AND THEN LOOK DOWN ON US WITH THIER SNEERING FAT LAUGHING FACES AND TELL US THAT WERE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE DO WITH 2.1 , BUT BY THE WAY WEVE NOW BROUGHT OUT A NEW SET OF “HEXED” PHONES WHICH WE WILL MAKE PLENTY OF MONEY OFF SO STOP COMPLAINING PEASANTS.
ITS BAD ENOUGH THAT YOU CANT HEAR THE PERSON YOURE TALKIN TO ON PHONE PROPERLY AND THEN THEY TELL US THIS PHONE IVE SKINTED MYSELF FOR IS NOW FUCKING OUTDATED????? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE SHOULD MARCH ON THEIR UK HEADQUARTERS AND SLAUGHTER THEM. MY GIRLFRIEND HAS A LITTLE SAMSUNG TOCCA LITE AND IT BLOWS MY “HEXED” 10 AWAY WITH ITS MEDIA AND CALL VOLUME…WHAT THE FUCK?????? AND AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO FIX THIS!!!!!! WE NEED TO BAND TOGETHER AND DEMAND A DISCOUNT OR EXCHANGE TO ANOTHER DEVICE OR DEMAND THAT WE AT THE LEAST GET 2.2, I MEAN FOR GODS SAKE, WE SHOULD BE NOT EVEN HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT NOT GETTING EQUAL SOFTWARE AS ALL THE OTHER BRANDS, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SET IN STONE. FUCKING 2.2???? WE SHOULD BE GETTING 2.3 AND ONWARDS. WHY DIDNT THEY ANNOUNCE THEY WERENT GOING TO UPDATE X 10 WHEN THEY FIRST DECIDED IT??? IF THEY HAD IM SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD NEVER HAVE BOUGHT THE PHONE AND WOULD NOW BE HAPPY WITH THIER SAMSUNG OR HTC. YOUR PHONE IS THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES SO ITS VITAL YOURE HAPPY WITH IT, SONY ERICCSON HAVE SHITTED ALL OVER ANY HAPPINESS I HAD WITH MY PHONE, YES ITS STILL A GOOD DEVICE AND MUCH BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE PERSONS PHONE BUT IT NOW BEARS THE LOGO OF A COMPANY WHO DOESNT GIVE A SHITE ABOUT THE MISERY THEY HAVE CAUSED. S.E KNOW ITS A FLAWED PHONE BUT TO ADMIT IT WOULD MEAN TOTAL RECALL OR REFUND. SO YES WE PARTICIPATED IN AN EXPERIMENT AND WE WERE THE RAT WHCH GETS KILLED AT THE END.
THE FACT IS IF WE ALL GOT OUR ACT TOGETHER AND FLOODED THEM WITH DEMANDS (EVEN CONTACT NEWSPAPERS ETC) WE COULD FORCE THEM TO ACT EITHER WITH SOFTWARE OR DISCOUNT. CANT BELIVE WERE HAVING TO BEG TO GET 2.2 WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SAFE IN THE KNOWLEDGE WHEN WE BOUGHT THIS PHONE IT WAS GONNA BE FULLY SUPPORTED FOR YEARS NOT FUCKING MONTHS!!!
ID RATHER DIE THAN GET AN ERICCSON OR LET ANYONE ELSE BUY ONE EVER AGAIN. JUST WAIT WHEN EVERYONES SHOWING OFF THEIR AMAZING PHONES AND WE COWER AWAY EMBARRASED AT OUR ABANDONED DEVICE. TO SEE THAT NEW ARC IS LIKE ANOTHER PIECE OF SHIT BEING DROPPED ON US FROM ABOVE BY S.E.
THIS IS TOTALLY NOT FUNNY! I had hope that I finally had found a phone competent enough to fulfill my needs 🙁 🙁 🙁 btw talking of a ROM version. isnt that dangerous? i mean wont it brake down ur phone?
My bro laughs me in the face all te time since he has the samsung galaxy S, which will get the 2.3 update soon. He always shows me how he can and i cant use flash for my device. thats what makes me pissed at sony ericsson.
::: BY THE WAY: ANDROID 3.O IS ON THE MARKET:::
its called honeycomb
Consumer sovereignty, Sony Erricson will get a name for not supporting their devices for long enough after manufacture, one has to wonder whether this decision has been motivated technically out of genuine concerns that the user’s phone may be too unreliable or whether it is more of a marketing decision to force people to buy new handsets either way not good
As a new user to smart phones I took advice from various resellers who all recommended the x10. I purchased 3 on plans for 3 community organisations delivered over last 2 weeks and I am disgusted with the sales approach for a phone that is already obsolete.
Hi guys/Girls. I got my Xperia X10 on the release date. I have been a true follower of SE for a long time. Biggest reason is because i’m swedish and have been willing to support local tech. After lots of broken promises my patience have reach it’s limit. I will now go for HTC, Samsung or Iphone. I’ll promise you all that im going to get hold on a manufactor that sticks to its promises to follow the technology in the future. The funeral for my x10 will i get back too. Maybe!
SUCK!!!
WRONGFULNESS!!!
SUCK!!!
WRONGFULNESS!!!
SUCK!!!
WRONGFULNESS!!!
Should we shell root or JUST root the device ??
Well I must say I am very disappointed that it seems Sony Ericsson have decided 2.1 is enough for this phone, like most others posting here I expected/hoped that SE would have the same software upgrade policy for Android as their competitors??!!
I have this phone on a 24 month contract so by the end of this period the software will be well out of date (it seems). The phone cost me approx £300.00 plus the contract cost of £10 per month and I was informed that this phone was a premium product at time of purchase, however after 6 months of ownership the SE support certainly doesn’t seem premium compared to competitors like HTC and Samsung.
I am not going to resort to bad language, however I must say I am extremely disappointed by SE’s lack of support for their customers. I will say that I will bear this in mind (like many others in the same position) next time I come to renew my contract. Sony Ericsson if you want my repeat business, please review your software update policy for the X10 as it is a great phone that is being let down by poor support. You must be aware that phone networks are supplying this phone on 18 month/24 month contracts so your support should continue for this period also. Especially at these prices!!!
This would be my last SE smartphone. Xperia x10 I’ve have right now is my first worst smartphone that only runs android 2.1, poor battery life, and has 312 mb ram and would not even upgrade it to 2.2 ; compared to samsung galaxy s which runs android 2.2 and have a 512 mb ram and might furthur upgrade to android 3.0 gingerbread.
I really hoped that SE would rethink again and upgrade xperia x10 to 2.2.
I´ll never buy cellphones from SE. They don´t care about their clients. That´s why this company never grows. SHAME ON!!!
Who needs Froyo (2.2)?
Who needs Flash support, WiFi tethering, app2sd, JIT…?
Who needs a real system in this top budge smartphone?
Sign the petition:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-Android-22-for-Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
Join, please.
Hey SE,
dont ever imagine that you will grow without the support of users and with such ditching efforts, no user will ever believe on your services and phone. I am going “fuck” my X10 in next 2 weeks and will never ever buy SE phone in my life…
Bloody you are cheaters and I am not the person who deal with cheaters.
Also to ensure the maximum damage for you, I am am also going to write the real negative feedback to 189 blogs I am associated with. I influence around 1.2 million readers and that shld be a valuable number for you to attract damage.
SE your game is finished !!!!
Stop making phones here after !!!
Aryaan
After purchasing such a costly mobile , how come SE say we will not upgrade it to 2.3 or above , its just the os …It may strip down few functionality but ….Not upgrading is a very distastefull experience.
Just purchased the mini for my sister in December…and now its obsolute … This is really very frustrating…
SE now I Hate you , and I will definately suggest others not to buy SE products.
소니 에릭슨 개새끼 —
What the fucking SE is doing ?
Bloody hell , X10 contains 16 million color display but shows only 2 million , Now we wont get 2.3 like arc….Damt ….We purchase sets on reliabilty and with our hard earned money , so that we get some regular update.
Now the fuckers of SE says no update and they want to sell the ARC ???
SUCK my dick SE , next yer you will say that u wont get any update in 3.3 in ARC . Bloody m=fuckers.
In india we got the set in July 2010 , and with in 6 months time u are scraping X10 ???
IT cost me a fortune of Rs.30,000. Bloody assole.
SE should be fired !
this is my last SE (Xperia x10)
i dont want to buy xperia arc
i will buy nexus x.
hahahaha
bye-bye SE
FUCK YOU SE …… I WILL BUY HTC HD
For people who say Xperia ARC will have android 2.3 or so then how can you trust SE that it will provide further updates on ARC also just like its doing with Xperia X10 After you buy ARC and then android 2.5 comes again SE will say it will not come in ARC and now you buy SE NEW MODEL. They are ripping off their customers. This is last SE phone This company should be banned . SE SHAME SE SHAME !!!!
I LOVE MY SE XPERIA X10!!!
7th SE phone and I still like them.
Are any of my x 10 brothers here gonna keep theirs or sell it? I dont know what to do,am torn between trading in 1 month old x10 and a brabd new blackberry curve 9300 but id get only 250 quid at a buy and sell shop for them both and then id have to put 160 pound cash towards as welll to get samsung galaxy !!!!!!???? If you look above at my previous post you will see my disgusted reaction to ericsson not updating beyond 2.2, i think they should be fucking slaughtered for shitting all over their customers like this. This besides the wank call volume,as if that not bad enough.
So please help me with decision, i know x10 is still good phone with good camera and screen rosolution etc but how will will we feel when we have outdated android version??? And after we paid this kind of money for the device ? Please tell me whether you all sold yours and how and tell me if you think i should give up 2 phones and 160 for samsung captivate. I WANT TO GET IT SORTED TOMMOROW, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR VALUED OPINIONS FELLOW USERS. 🙁
hi,
this is really disheartening to hear. a lot of u have vented out your anger which is understandable. but it is no use unless somoene from SE decides to take up any action.
the whole excitment of owning an android has virtually died down.
SE as to realise that if their products do not grow with android.. they are killing themselvs.. people will hav no faith in SE products at all.
I bought x10 (and am sure many others too) on thr promise of latest upgrades.. first they take a decade to upgrade 1 version then they say wont upgrade more than 1 version. well FO SE.
I’m done with all SE products from this day forth. Also I will take every opportunity To make sure my friends boycott SE as well. It would be great if everyone does this and leaves a comment here saying the same.
I have spent £450 on Xperia X10 and they said we not going to update to 2.2 froyo. what the hell is going on with Sony Ericsson. they should update it.
i hate Sony Ericsson now. Samsung is much better than Sony Ericsson at least they update their phones. even they have cheaper phone such as galaxy s is only £350 where as Xperia X10 is £450. hundred pounds difference. I hate Sony Ericsson.
What a shame SE!!!!! I’ve been a SE user since their first touch screen mobile phone which is the P900 right up until NOW! Well, not any more..I’ll be switching to LG or Samsung after this or to be exact, at the end of this month. You might ask me, what will I do to my X10? I’m not even going to sell it nor give it to some one else, I’m just going to throw it away inside a smelly dust bin, a place where it belongs. In conclusion, I will never ever going to buy another SE phones ever again! LG, Samsung or HTC here I come..embrace me. Ciao.
Who needs Froyo (2.2)?
Who needs Flash support, WiFi tethering, app2sd, JIT…?
Who needs a real system in this top budge Smartphone?
Sign the petition:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-Android-22-for-Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
Join, please, and spread the word!
@fact is shit
i am fed up abusing u M fuckr…
go n get some life u asshole..
They will do this again with arc!
I’ll never buy SE device again…
NO FUCKING 2.2 ONWARDS?????!!!!!!!!!!! YOU BASTARDS !!!! SO WE STILL HAVE 65 K COLOUR SCREEN WHEN ALL OTHER ANDROIDS HAVE 16 MILLION !!!!! THE CALL VOLUME IS FUCKING RUINING MY LIFE!!! WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON????? HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH A PHONE YOU CANT HEAR THE OTHER PERSON ON !!!!!!
I HAVE O.C.D WHEN IT COMES TO SCRATCHES ON MY PHONE SO I HANDLE IT WITH KID GLOVES AND KEEP IT IN A LEATHER CASE AT ALL TIMES, I NEVER LET ANYONE ELSE EVEN TOUCH IT BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT SCREEN IN BRIGHT LIGHTIT HAS FUCKING LITTLE SCRATCHES ALL OVER!!!!! AND I GOT IT ON A BASTARD 2 YEAR CONTRACT, ERICSSON STATED THAT THE SCREEN WAS “SCRATC PROOF ” . NOT IN A HELLS LIFETIME IT ISNT.
AND IM NOT EVEN GOING TO START ON THE FACT THEYVE SHIITED ON US ALL BY SAYING WE NOT GONNA GET 2.1 ONWARDS. I SWEAR TO GOD IF I COULD GET AWAY WITH IT ID SLAUGHTER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. I EVEN COULDVE MAYBE,,,JUST MAYBE GOT OVER THIS IN TIME, BUT FOR THE SCREEN TO BE SCRATCHED UP AFTER 1 MONTH????? I AM NOW TEARING MY SELF APART LITERALLY ABOUT THE DECISION TO ABSOLUTELY SKINT MYSELF AND GET ANOTHER PHONE, I FEEL ABSOLUTELY HOPELESS AND HELPLESS, EVEN IN THE TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE SCENARIO THAT THEY DID DO 2.2. WE WILL STILL HAVE A PHONE THATS DISGUSTING IN CALL VOLUME AND SCRATCHED TO HELL ,,,,,,
AND THEY JUST SAY..OH WE ADMIT THE PHONE IS SHITE BUT OOOOOOHH LOOK AT OUR NEW PHONE BUILT WITH PREMIUM MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING YOU COULD EVER NEED.
RUBBING OUR FACES IN THE FACT WE ARE STUCK WITH A UNUSABLE PHONE THAT WOULD SCRATCH IF A FUCKIN SPIDER WALKED ACROSS IT !!!!
I WANTED TO LOVE THIS PHONE, I REALLY DID. BUT YOUR PHONE IS AN ABSOLUTELY VITAL PART OF YOUR LIFE AND TO BE STUCK WITH THIS IS NOW CAUSING HUGE MISERY, I WILL STOP NOW BECAUSE I REALLY CANT HANDLE THIS. I LOVE THE DESIGN AND THE CAMERA ON THIS PHONE BUT WHO THE FUCK LET IT PASS QUALITY CONTROLL WITH CALL VOLUME LIKE THIS???????????
AND TO LEAVE US WITH 65 THOUSAND COLOUR SCREEN COMPARED TO 16 MILLION ON GALAXY S AND DESIRE??????????
I HOPE THEY FUCKING DIE
This is for sure my first and last SE phone
WTF! X8 is new phone! WTH are they thinking stopping at 2.1? 128MB for apps? FAILZ.
XDA trashes SE hands and feet down, with eyes closed.
FUCK YOURSEKF YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES. HTC HERE I COME. SE ARE MAJOR ASSHOLE AND DICK FUCKERS!!!
Came accross this news that an XDA member – MicBeast, to be exact – has filed a class action lawsuit with firm Edelson against T-Mobile and Samsung over violating the law of “Unfair and Deceptive Consumer Business Practices” due to the lack of updates for the Samsung Vibrant.
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/14/ticked-xda-member-files-class-action-lawsuit-against-samsung-t-mobile-over-froyo/
Do you think SE deserve the similar treatment particular by those who bought the phone on 1st week of Jan, 2011 and on 6th Jan., 2011 they got to know that SE has officially declared that they are not going to have Android firmware revision any longer for all the existing Xperia series phones?
It is being said that this decision is made for making room for their next phone Arc. But… with this kind of mean strategy, do you think they are going to make good market for Arc or oppositely they have put its future in dark?
WTF!!! Even with 1G processor,X10 no further OS update?!! Good technical spec for this phone but poor after sales service. Customer loyalty = 0
I can understand how exactly X10 owners feel. Its just that SE doesn’t have a habit of supporting their devices. I owned a satio and SE decided to abandon its flagship when it moved to the xperia. Now the same is happening and SE just expects you to buy a ARC or a Xperia play. The only option left is to boycott SE and not let them have this power over you.
what the fucking… no update. fuck u.. go and lick xdb developers ass
SE really has not understood what matters in smartphones. These devices are now only few months old and already they sorf of end support for the devices. I won’t be able to use any software written for android >2.1? WTF?
Not only has SE been shipping those phones with completely out-of-date operating systems since the beginning, now they are not even able to make up for it!
Ah, by the way, audio quality on my X10 mini sucks over the headphones, too.
Why the hell did I buy a Sony??? Never again.
I saw this coming. The fact that the 2.1 update was delayed for the longest time told me that X10 users won’t see 2.2.
Besides, you all act shocked. I don’t know why either. Even if X10 owner DID get Froyo, you wouldn’t see it until the 3rd Quarter of 2011, and by that time, 3.0 will be out. So why complain? Just because your faced with the truth?
I mean, yeah you guys are pissed off. But come on, everyone knows that phones are pratically outdated in 6 months (or sooner). Face it. If they kept updating their old phones to newer firmware, that can completely ruin the sales of their new phones. You have to also view it from their perspective.
That’s why I got rid of my X10 before everyone found out it won’t be updated. I stick with HTC now 🙂
what the hell is this SE?
we dont but such costly phones for hearing dis in the end….
dis is really heart breaking…
u do this thinking dat people will buy ur new phones after selling their present x10s…?
this is one of the worst bussiness techniques i have ever seen….
lets hope dat someone sues SE badly and dey have to launch 2.2 and above operating systems……lets pray for the best…:-(
Upgrade to 2.2 0r 2.3. If Timespace and Mediaspace are the problem then remove them.
This is for sure my first and last SE phone…
That’s Sucks! I will not purchase sony’s phone, ever!
Fuck sony ericsson.. this X10 is my last phone.. no more sony mobiles. 🙁
OMG… after waiting and hoping… this is the best you give me… you slap me right on the face SE!!! Great!!!
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Ending support for your PREMIER FLAGSHIP DEVICE within a year of launch is totally bad business practice… Some bought into it with 2.1 so for them they get NO update and EOL… wow!!
This is my last SE, my next phone will be HTC
I seriously feel I have been messed around by SE. The phone is fine, but the software has been dodgy from day one, the update helped a little but not much, the custom build is just not a good enough quality, and the battery life is worse (and I really mean this) that the original G1.
I agree with the people who have said this is their last SE phone. It’s all we can do – and it’s not enough. We’re just shouting in an empty can. They really, truly don’t care at all.
Sony Ericsson stinks! Plain and simple. It’s my first time purchasing an android phone. Bad luck got me to Sony Ericsson’s Xperia X10. Never in my life have I ever seen such lack of customer care. Sony Ericsson don’t care about their customers. I’m selling my phone and I’m never going to buy any Sony Ericsson products again.
x10 mini is my lastest SE goods!
my next phone is always other compenys phone.
but.
I always beileve XDA developer, I always cheer them
Bye bye sony ericsson.. I don’t try to buy sony ericsson mobiles anymore.. I have x10 mini.. Brightness and battery back up are worst and now got to know that this fucking device can’t be upgraded to 2.2 or further.. Don’t try to btw sony ericsson mobiles.. Better go for htc desire..
Ah, I am so upset that others can so eliquently write their
anger down, if I write down what I really want to do I probably
be banned for life. 🙂
One major update from 1.6 to 2.1 and only after 2.3 had already been released on other Android phones. I understand that the Sony Corporation has stock holders to please, but damn, if they want the SE brand to return to its past and turn around their dwindling sales records…this is not the way, they just damaged a huge market for their phones and Android users tend to be of the creed that talk and share information like this, which isn’t going to be good marketing for Sony. A friend recently posted an article about a new SE phone and I warned him against buying it.
Also, it should be in Androids best interest to control how companies use their software, this doesn’t only leave a bad taste in my mouth over Sony, but Android too as this is my first Android phone. Yes, yes, I understand it isn’t Androids affair what Sony does, but flaky practices like this shouldn’t be worthy of the Android brand name, I’m a big gadget person so I’ll be open to second chances here…but I can see how many less technology inclined people will simply take what Sony has done here and simply say “Android SUCKS!” and go over to Apple, RIM or Microsoft.
I’m a big fan of Sony electronics, but this is the first and last time I’ll buy anything with the SE brand on it.
I agree with all, i hate them stopping to upgrade de X10, i just bought it and this new comes up! let´s see an inmediate consequence of this: in android 2.2 you can edit google docs online. not in android 2.1! son my phone wouldn’t be able to do that. SE that’s a brand killer. never again i am buying an SE phone, added to blacklist!
PS: dont buy Kyoceras or Lg neither… they suck
time to get an iphone…
Yes a big difference is that Mediascape is replaced with a beautiful flash-based media-component standard gingerbread gallery software versions current Photos.The X10 family is not built this way, what means Android 2.1 is the latest to be supported.
really makes xperia owners sorrow!! they cant be so mean they should find an alternative rom solution to keep xperia upgrading further.. still froyo remains a hope for us, while ginger bread and honeycomb would become outdated soon!! very pathetic hope sony erricson team do look after solving this issue!!
I can’t believe it! Actually yes i can. Sony Ericsson’s behaviour on the x10 borders on the ridiculous.
NEVER buying an SE product again… no really.. never…. its actually that bad!
Bullshit. Go to the Sony Ericsson Website and you’ll see. They’ve Already released froyo and gingerbread is on route.
Sony Ericsson confirmed that the new handsets have a lighter SE skin and that its own modifications have been decoupled to ensure that updates will be much more timely compared to what current Xperia X10 and X10 mini owners have had to endure.
This was expected; the money lies in selling phones, and to do that you have to keep up with the competition. Supporting old handsets only costs money. That’s not say that as an X10 Mini Pro owner it’s not disappointing, just not a surprise.
Ending support for your PREMIER FLAGSHIP DEVICE within a year of launch is totally bad business practice… Some bought into it with 2.1 so for them they get NO update and EOL… wow!!
This is the last SE device I buy. And it’s developed a fault on the touch display already. Here’s hoping they can’t fix it and have to replace it with something better
I understand that the Sony Corporation has stock holders to please, but damn, if they want the SE brand to return to its past and turn around their dwindling sales records.
They could have been more polite to the adopters of their first android line-up. anyway ARC seems so sexy. Maybe will switch mt X101 for ARC, but again it is a question of money also.
And who the fuck would make a phone with specs as good as that then realise they’ve fucked around with the UI too much and now cant do anything with it. I think it goes a little like this..
Thanks for some other great article. Where else could anyone get that type of info in such an ideal way of writing? I’ve a presentation subsequent week, and I’m at the search for such info.
I swear that Xperia X10 was my last phone from Sony Ericsson. I will never buy another one, and I don’t care about X12, still it doesn’t has the front camera for video calling or skype. Still one core processor…This massage is a SE’s shame.
It’s my first time purchasing an android phone. Bad luck got me to Sony Ericsson’s Xperia X10. Never in my life have I ever seen such lack of customer care. Sony Ericsson don’t care about their customers. I’m selling my phone and I’m never going to buy any Sony Ericsson products again.
I understand it isn’t Androids affair what Sony does, but flaky practices like this shouldn’t be worthy of the Android brand name, I’m a big gadget person so I’ll be open to second chances here…but I can see how many less technology inclined people will simply take what Sony has done here and simply say “Android SUCKS!” and go over to Apple, RIM or Microsoft.
iPhone users get all the OS updates for at least 2 models back. They can sell the phone to someone who doesn’t want a newer model, doesn’t want to upgrade a contract and doesn’t want to spend more money.
I understand that the Sony Corporation has stock holders to please, but damn, if they want the SE brand to return to its past and turn around their dwindling sales records.